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KOSHER EQUIPMENT QUESTIONS
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I want to serve the food as hot as possible for the Friday night meal.
Can I pre-arrange with a non-Jew
so I'm not instructing her on Shabbos
to turn the oven off after Shabbas has begun?
- No
- The rules that apply as to when & how one may ask a
non-Jew or a Jew
to do a prohibited
act on the Shabbas are very extensive & complicated - The same standards generally apply whether you ask the non-jew on Shabbas or before Shabbas.
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Can I grill fish & meat on the same barbeque grill?
- There is a prohibition to cook meat & fish together in the same covered pot or oven
(Chullin 111b). - The prohibition is intended to prevent the fish & meat from
touching each other during
cooking or while hot. - You are permitted to cook a piece of fish, by itself in a meat pot (Taz Y.D. 116: 2-3).
- On an open grill, where the fish & meat are not covered & are not touching each other
one may grill fish & meat separately making sure they do not touch each other
(Taz, ibid and 95:3). - See also (Badei hashulchan 95:8; Yalkut Yosef, Issur V'heter III, 87:85)
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Can I use a dairy food processor to chop onions
& then put the onions into a recipe that has meat in it?
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First we must determine what you mean by a dairy food processor.
1. If it has been used only for cold foods & has not been washed in hot water without
significant concentration of soap, then it isn't halachically dairy.
2. Then assuming, it is clean of milk residues anything processed withi n it is fully pareve.
3. f your processor in definitely dairy, then you have a problem, because an onion is a
classic example of 'davar charif,' a sharp food.
4. For a combination of the reasons in the sources below, onions processed or blended
in an actual dairy food processor should be considered dairy. - SOURCES
1. Usually taste is transferred between food & other foods & utensils & absorbed only when there is heat present, if a knife cuts a 'davar charif,' there is a presumed transfer.
Thus the onion must be assumed to absorb dairy taste from blades (Shulchan Aruch,
Yoreh Deah 96:1)
2. Usually, kosher taste which is absorbed into a utensil & then comes out into a food has
a status of being significantly reduced (see details, ibid 95) because it is a 'noten ta'am
bar noten ta'am" (double removed taste). However the sharpness of a ''davar charif'
causes even such otherwise weak taste to be more noticeable & so this leniency is not applicable (ibid 96:1)
3. Usually, absorbed taste, which has spent 24 straight hours in the walls of a utensil,
picks up a foul taste which detracts from foods into which the taste is expelled. In most
cases, after the fact (b'dieved) that foods were cooked in these utensils, the taste
doesn't change the state of the food. In the case of a 'davar charif' which abosrbs, most
poskim rule that this taste does imprint itself on the devar charif (Shulchan Aruch ibid
& Shach ad loc:6)
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If I an aluminum tin with chicken in it has some gravy on the bottom,
can I put it on a warmer (blech) on Shabbas
to warm it for our lunch?
- If the amount of liquid is not significant & the chicken is only damp with sauce, it can be
placed on the warmer (blech). - But if the amount of sauce is significant, it not permitted to heat it on Shabbas.
- It has become a custom to place a upside down pan or plate on the warmer (blech) & then
put the pan or aluminum tin, etc. on it.
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I accidentally cooked milk in a clean fleishig pot
that wasn't used in the past 24 hours.
What is the status of the milk? What is the status of the pot?
- Since the fleishig pot was an not used for 24 hours (aino ben yomo), the milk is permitted.
- This is because the meat flavor that was absorbed in the pot became stale before the milk
was introduced & the aino ben yomo meat flavor has no halachic impact on the milk. - This episode occurred accidentally & therefore all poskim agree that there is no penalty applicable to the food.
- The pot, however, requires kashering.
- If the pot was not kosherized & subsequently meat was cooked in the pot within 24 hours
of the dairy use, the meat would be forbidden because it absorbs the dairy flavor from the
walls of the pot.
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May I cook in a non-kosher pot
provided it has not been used in the past 24 hours (aino ben yomo)?
- Although there is no Torah prohibition to use a non-kosher pot that is an aino ben yomo,
because the absorbed flavor is stale & inedible, there is a Rabbinic prohibition to do so. - The Rabbis forbade cooking in such a pot because they were concerned that one might be confused & cook in the pot without first waiting 24 hours.
- Nonetheless, after the fact (bidieved), if one accidentally cooked in a clean non-kosher pot
that was an aino ben yomo,the food is permitted under most circumstances. - If one cooked in the pot deliberately, there is a difference of opinions regarding the food.
- Pri Megadim (M.Z. OC 451:2) writes that we penalize the individual & forbid him to eat
the food. - Igros Moshe (YD 2:41) ruled that although it is forbidden to cook in such a pot, if one did
so,there is no penalty and the food may be eaten.
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